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		<title>By: Thor</title>
		<link>http://animediet.net/podcasts/strike-witches-the-evil-without/comment-page-1#comment-15127</link>
		<dc:creator>Thor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys
At last I got no idea what the problem of this anime is.
It&#039;s good balanced, funny, a bit weired (all animes have to be a bit crazy ya know) and it takes place in a nearly good setting (..)
I know that the Japanese love those German names and WWII weaponary and (of course) half-nacked girls, flying around, too.
(I dunno anybody who doesn&#039;t like that,too -
exapt those who dunno care for animes or stuff like that)

In a list whit the animes Allison to Lillia, Valkyria Chronicles, He.S.My.Mstr, Wolf Rain (..) it makes a good look.
In my oppinion it&#039;s an  very good to awesome (10/10 pts) anime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys<br />
At last I got no idea what the problem of this anime is.<br />
It&#8217;s good balanced, funny, a bit weired (all animes have to be a bit crazy ya know) and it takes place in a nearly good setting (..)<br />
I know that the Japanese love those German names and WWII weaponary and (of course) half-nacked girls, flying around, too.<br />
(I dunno anybody who doesn&#8217;t like that,too -<br />
exapt those who dunno care for animes or stuff like that)</p>
<p>In a list whit the animes Allison to Lillia, Valkyria Chronicles, He.S.My.Mstr, Wolf Rain (..) it makes a good look.<br />
In my oppinion it&#8217;s an  very good to awesome (10/10 pts) anime.</p>
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		<title>By: moritheil</title>
		<link>http://animediet.net/podcasts/strike-witches-the-evil-without/comment-page-1#comment-7412</link>
		<dc:creator>moritheil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 17:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@IKnight&lt;/strong&gt; - Definitely check out &lt;em&gt;Magic Knight Rayearth&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Sailor Moon&lt;/em&gt;, and &lt;em&gt;Pretty Cure&lt;/em&gt; for their takes on the genre.  The first two are classics and the &lt;a href=&quot;../../commentary/face-off-mike-ray-and-mori-meta-tate-on-anime-and-art&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;last is a rehashing of stereotypes&lt;/a&gt; (I may review it properly at some point in time, but there&#039;s a summary of my views on it.)

All three of the shows I just mentioned have a singular point that isn&#039;t necessarily true in shows like &lt;em&gt;Nanoha&lt;/em&gt;: their power does not exist in a vacuum; it is given to them for a purpose.  There are also shows like &lt;em&gt;Yume Tsukai&lt;/em&gt;, where the magical girl part is just dressing and the bulk of the show is something else entirely (in that case, social criticism.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@IKnight</strong> &#8211; Definitely check out <em>Magic Knight Rayearth</em>, <em>Sailor Moon</em>, and <em>Pretty Cure</em> for their takes on the genre.  The first two are classics and the <a href="../../commentary/face-off-mike-ray-and-mori-meta-tate-on-anime-and-art" rel="nofollow">last is a rehashing of stereotypes</a> (I may review it properly at some point in time, but there&#8217;s a summary of my views on it.)</p>
<p>All three of the shows I just mentioned have a singular point that isn&#8217;t necessarily true in shows like <em>Nanoha</em>: their power does not exist in a vacuum; it is given to them for a purpose.  There are also shows like <em>Yume Tsukai</em>, where the magical girl part is just dressing and the bulk of the show is something else entirely (in that case, social criticism.)</p>
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		<title>By: IKnight</title>
		<link>http://animediet.net/podcasts/strike-witches-the-evil-without/comment-page-1#comment-7408</link>
		<dc:creator>IKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 22:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a pet theory that magical girl stories usually position young women as the highest moral agents, capable of being misled but never ill-intentioned -- something which goes beyond the usual tendency for central characters to be, on the whole, good people. Admittedly my knowledge of the genre is limited and mostly consists of &#039;hybrid&#039; titles (like &lt;em&gt;Nanoha&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Princess Tutu&lt;/em&gt; and, well, &lt;em&gt;Strike Witches&lt;/em&gt;; &lt;em&gt;Uta Kata&lt;/em&gt; is the textbook subversion). Whether that constitutes a separation between them and the rest of humanity I don&#039;t know. I don&#039;t really have any evidence for it in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a pet theory that magical girl stories usually position young women as the highest moral agents, capable of being misled but never ill-intentioned &#8212; something which goes beyond the usual tendency for central characters to be, on the whole, good people. Admittedly my knowledge of the genre is limited and mostly consists of &#8216;hybrid&#8217; titles (like <em>Nanoha</em>, <em>Princess Tutu</em> and, well, <em>Strike Witches</em>; <em>Uta Kata</em> is the textbook subversion). Whether that constitutes a separation between them and the rest of humanity I don&#8217;t know. I don&#8217;t really have any evidence for it in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: moritheil</title>
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		<dc:creator>moritheil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 21:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic comments.
&lt;strong&gt;
IKnight&lt;/strong&gt; - Certainly. Even the swastika itself has different connotations in Asia than it does in Germany. Incidentally, it may amuse you to know that a reader recently expressed disapproval with our positive review of Code Geass because of the &quot;fascist&quot; elements present in its character designs.  Of course the uniforms were inspired by Nazi Germany, but that&#039;s kind of the point: in the world of the show, the military &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt; have political clout and the government &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; tyrannical.

&lt;strong&gt;freehrm&lt;/strong&gt; - So interpreting the Strike Witches&#039; spirit as the goodness of the universal human spirit is impossible, because they are not average humans?  I certainly agree that they aren&#039;t normal, but I don&#039;t see the futility of a dream of peace as the ultimate take-home lesson.  Yes, humans make war and do bad things to each other.  Despite that, there will always be those who wish for peace.  

The Strike Witches differ most from regular humanity in their powers, not in their psychological composition. This is of course my own interpretation, but I think it has some support in the show: from the very beginning, all the moments when the audience is set up to identify with them are intensely &quot;human&quot; moments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic comments.<br />
<strong><br />
IKnight</strong> &#8211; Certainly. Even the swastika itself has different connotations in Asia than it does in Germany. Incidentally, it may amuse you to know that a reader recently expressed disapproval with our positive review of Code Geass because of the &#8220;fascist&#8221; elements present in its character designs.  Of course the uniforms were inspired by Nazi Germany, but that&#8217;s kind of the point: in the world of the show, the military <em>does</em> have political clout and the government <em>is</em> tyrannical.</p>
<p><strong>freehrm</strong> &#8211; So interpreting the Strike Witches&#8217; spirit as the goodness of the universal human spirit is impossible, because they are not average humans?  I certainly agree that they aren&#8217;t normal, but I don&#8217;t see the futility of a dream of peace as the ultimate take-home lesson.  Yes, humans make war and do bad things to each other.  Despite that, there will always be those who wish for peace.  </p>
<p>The Strike Witches differ most from regular humanity in their powers, not in their psychological composition. This is of course my own interpretation, but I think it has some support in the show: from the very beginning, all the moments when the audience is set up to identify with them are intensely &#8220;human&#8221; moments.</p>
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		<title>By: freehrm</title>
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		<dc:creator>freehrm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 19:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In essence I agree with your assertion that the show in some ways seeks to establish the notion that without the horrors of WWII humanity would be more united. This point is made clearer by the fact that the titular girls are mostly all from different countries, countries that were at odds with each other during the war. Not only are they working together against a single, non-human, enemy but also they have been collected into a single fighting unit. Unlike the men, in the series, who are still separated by nationality and are basically useless against the aliens, the Strike Witches are a completely integrated multi-national military force who (with the aide of magical powers) are the only ones able to halt the total annihilation of the human race. 

I think Vallen Chaos Valiant also makes a very important point, which cannot be overlooked when evaluating this series. It would seem that above all else the over-riding point of the narrative (besides pantsu) is to say that humans are an inherently violent race and we solve are biggest problems by killing each other.  And the only way we are going to be able to survive against impossible odds is to not only join forces but to go one step further and become one force. It is too bad that the Strike Witches are the only fantastic element in the series. It is as if the creators are saying, “Yes! Here is the answer to human survival, but its a fantasy and therefore impossible.” 

But that is just my take, I’m probably reading way too much into this vehicle for panty shot fan-service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In essence I agree with your assertion that the show in some ways seeks to establish the notion that without the horrors of WWII humanity would be more united. This point is made clearer by the fact that the titular girls are mostly all from different countries, countries that were at odds with each other during the war. Not only are they working together against a single, non-human, enemy but also they have been collected into a single fighting unit. Unlike the men, in the series, who are still separated by nationality and are basically useless against the aliens, the Strike Witches are a completely integrated multi-national military force who (with the aide of magical powers) are the only ones able to halt the total annihilation of the human race. </p>
<p>I think Vallen Chaos Valiant also makes a very important point, which cannot be overlooked when evaluating this series. It would seem that above all else the over-riding point of the narrative (besides pantsu) is to say that humans are an inherently violent race and we solve are biggest problems by killing each other.  And the only way we are going to be able to survive against impossible odds is to not only join forces but to go one step further and become one force. It is too bad that the Strike Witches are the only fantastic element in the series. It is as if the creators are saying, “Yes! Here is the answer to human survival, but its a fantasy and therefore impossible.” </p>
<p>But that is just my take, I’m probably reading way too much into this vehicle for panty shot fan-service.</p>
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		<title>By: IKnight</title>
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		<dc:creator>IKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a post recently at Colony Drop arguing that when mechanical designers adopt elements from WW2 German military hardware they&#039;re not making a moral point, just making their designs look cool -- because in Japan that aesthetic doesn&#039;t have the same associations. While I think I&#039;ve seen designers even here in the UK adopting that aesthetic without intending to bring the Holocaust into it, in general I think that&#039;s a good point.

I guess since different parts of the world associate different Bad Things with WW2, it&#039;s a kind of convenient signifier for which everyone can provide their own horriffic-cultural-memory signified. Or something, I&#039;m not very good with signifiers and signifieds and whatnot.

I found myself &lt;a href=&quot;http://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=31742&quot; title=&quot;Remembering the War Dead&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;musing&lt;/a&gt; on a tangentially related subject the other day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a post recently at Colony Drop arguing that when mechanical designers adopt elements from WW2 German military hardware they&#8217;re not making a moral point, just making their designs look cool &#8212; because in Japan that aesthetic doesn&#8217;t have the same associations. While I think I&#8217;ve seen designers even here in the UK adopting that aesthetic without intending to bring the Holocaust into it, in general I think that&#8217;s a good point.</p>
<p>I guess since different parts of the world associate different Bad Things with WW2, it&#8217;s a kind of convenient signifier for which everyone can provide their own horriffic-cultural-memory signified. Or something, I&#8217;m not very good with signifiers and signifieds and whatnot.</p>
<p>I found myself <a href="http://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=31742" title="Remembering the War Dead" rel="nofollow">musing</a> on a tangentially related subject the other day.</p>
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		<title>By: moritheil</title>
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		<dc:creator>moritheil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 21:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for these well-thought-out comments.  

&lt;strong&gt;@IKnight&lt;/strong&gt; - Certainly perfect unity amongst human beings is an illusion, perhaps even in the most desperate of times.  Above, I bring up the general cultural assumptions that inform the public in the &lt;em&gt;Strike Witches &lt;/em&gt;world - assumptions which are informed by but by no means perfectly indicative of reality.  These assumptions give rise to the general spirit of camraderie and goodwill seen in the show.

I&#039;m glad that you think there is merit in the concept of WWII as a cultural touchstone for evil.  In America and Europe, the Holocaust is probably the most prominent evil aspect of it. In China, I imagine the Nanking Massacre is given priority, and in Japan, the beginning of nuclear warfare seems to have the most weight.

&lt;strong&gt;@Vallen Chaos Valiant&lt;/strong&gt; - There is indeed eventually proof that the Neuroi are not so much evil as tragically noncommunicative. However, I would argue that if you seek a statement on the human condition, you cannot ignore the show&#039;s focus on the essentially good-hearted title characters themselves.   Thus, I think the suggestion that &lt;em&gt;Strike Witches&lt;/em&gt; is an affirmation of human evil (as you said, the opposite of what I suggested) goes too far.  Most of the people depicted are generally good, if flawed.

This is not to say that the darkness of the human heart is not present as historical fact - as I noted, even without WWII, &quot;there is still a long and brutal history of war, oppression, and slavery to contend with.&quot; Viewed from the perspective of the average person, however, the Neuroi are not at all understood (it says so repeatedly in the narration), and it is easy to cast humanity as the heroes and the aliens as evil aggressors.  Culturally, then, this is how things stand.  Note that the line you quoted about the cultural apprehension of evil is preceded by a reminder of &quot;the ignorance present in the minds of virtually all characters in the &lt;em&gt;Strike Witches&lt;/em&gt; universe.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for these well-thought-out comments.  </p>
<p><strong>@IKnight</strong> &#8211; Certainly perfect unity amongst human beings is an illusion, perhaps even in the most desperate of times.  Above, I bring up the general cultural assumptions that inform the public in the <em>Strike Witches </em>world &#8211; assumptions which are informed by but by no means perfectly indicative of reality.  These assumptions give rise to the general spirit of camraderie and goodwill seen in the show.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that you think there is merit in the concept of WWII as a cultural touchstone for evil.  In America and Europe, the Holocaust is probably the most prominent evil aspect of it. In China, I imagine the Nanking Massacre is given priority, and in Japan, the beginning of nuclear warfare seems to have the most weight.</p>
<p><strong>@Vallen Chaos Valiant</strong> &#8211; There is indeed eventually proof that the Neuroi are not so much evil as tragically noncommunicative. However, I would argue that if you seek a statement on the human condition, you cannot ignore the show&#8217;s focus on the essentially good-hearted title characters themselves.   Thus, I think the suggestion that <em>Strike Witches</em> is an affirmation of human evil (as you said, the opposite of what I suggested) goes too far.  Most of the people depicted are generally good, if flawed.</p>
<p>This is not to say that the darkness of the human heart is not present as historical fact &#8211; as I noted, even without WWII, &#8220;there is still a long and brutal history of war, oppression, and slavery to contend with.&#8221; Viewed from the perspective of the average person, however, the Neuroi are not at all understood (it says so repeatedly in the narration), and it is easy to cast humanity as the heroes and the aliens as evil aggressors.  Culturally, then, this is how things stand.  Note that the line you quoted about the cultural apprehension of evil is preceded by a reminder of &#8220;the ignorance present in the minds of virtually all characters in the <em>Strike Witches</em> universe.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Vallen Chaos Valiant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vallen Chaos Valiant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In the world of &lt;em&gt;Strike Witches&lt;/em&gt;, evil is not found in the heart.  Evil is external, and humanity is united in opposition to it.&quot;

Except the episode with the friendly alien suggested otherwise; the aliens only attacked humanity because it thought that&#039;s how humans communicate. They imitate human war machines, and fight humans because they think that&#039;s the way humans interact with one another. The start of WWII being the first thing the aliens saw when they arrived. It says more about us than what it says about the aliens.

So the story is the exact opposite to what you suggest; evil IS found in the heart, and without that evil in humans the aliens would have attempted to make first contact peacefully.
When in Rome, do what Romans do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In the world of <em>Strike Witches</em>, evil is not found in the heart.  Evil is external, and humanity is united in opposition to it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Except the episode with the friendly alien suggested otherwise; the aliens only attacked humanity because it thought that&#8217;s how humans communicate. They imitate human war machines, and fight humans because they think that&#8217;s the way humans interact with one another. The start of WWII being the first thing the aliens saw when they arrived. It says more about us than what it says about the aliens.</p>
<p>So the story is the exact opposite to what you suggest; evil IS found in the heart, and without that evil in humans the aliens would have attempted to make first contact peacefully.<br />
When in Rome, do what Romans do.</p>
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		<title>By: IKnight</title>
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		<dc:creator>IKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I may nitpick, is there not a betrayal in the plot that would suggest humanity is not entirely united? Also, I could swear one of the characters said something along the lines of &#039;if it wasn&#039;t for the Neuroi, our superiors would be at one another&#039;s throats&#039; (but my memory could be wrong). Still, I won&#039;t claim that &lt;em&gt;SW&lt;/em&gt; is a Wieselian journey into human evil, or anything.

I think there were some posts during the show&#039;s broadcast examining the relationship between the understanding of WW2 in modern-day Japan and the version of the 40s that &lt;em&gt;Strike Witches&lt;/em&gt; presents. Den Beste, for example, wrote something arguing that Japan has a different attitudes to the Japanese Army and Navy of WW2 and that this might inform &lt;em&gt;SW&lt;/em&gt;. (I know so little about Japan and Japanese history that I can&#039;t really comment.)

On a not-particularly-related to &lt;em&gt;Strike Witches&lt;/em&gt; note, I think the idea that the Second World War (more specifically the Holocaust?) is our pop-cultural go-to event for Bad Stuff definitely has legs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I may nitpick, is there not a betrayal in the plot that would suggest humanity is not entirely united? Also, I could swear one of the characters said something along the lines of &#8216;if it wasn&#8217;t for the Neuroi, our superiors would be at one another&#8217;s throats&#8217; (but my memory could be wrong). Still, I won&#8217;t claim that <em>SW</em> is a Wieselian journey into human evil, or anything.</p>
<p>I think there were some posts during the show&#8217;s broadcast examining the relationship between the understanding of WW2 in modern-day Japan and the version of the 40s that <em>Strike Witches</em> presents. Den Beste, for example, wrote something arguing that Japan has a different attitudes to the Japanese Army and Navy of WW2 and that this might inform <em>SW</em>. (I know so little about Japan and Japanese history that I can&#8217;t really comment.)</p>
<p>On a not-particularly-related to <em>Strike Witches</em> note, I think the idea that the Second World War (more specifically the Holocaust?) is our pop-cultural go-to event for Bad Stuff definitely has legs.</p>
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